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Bulletins Bulletin : Published and Discussed
Date: Wednesday, April 30, 2003
From: Nijhum
Subject:
ektu vabna
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matritto ki naree shadhinotar protibondhok?


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||kuashaa||
(Wednesday, April 30, 2003)

depend korey shadheenotar shongar upor.
meyerai bolun, shuni.

~*dushtu*~
(Wednesday, April 30, 2003)

Nijhumji,
agey bolo what does this mean??
matritto ki naree shadhinotar protibondhok?

kothar manei to thik moto bujhlam nah.. ...agey English ee translake koro tarpor ami amer opinions dibo... othoba..shohoj sorol banglai bolo jeno amio

kuashaa bhai er kotha shune mone holo ekta meyeder bepare kohta... matrito maney ma i know that... shadhinotar maney freedom i know that.. ki maney what seitao jani..ebar pura ta bhalo kore bujhiye dao

~*dushtu*~
(Wednesday, April 30, 2003)

translate*

NetRomeo
(Wednesday, April 30, 2003)


dushtu...tomar sob jaegaey opinion dite hobe emon kono kotha nei...egulo bujhte aaro somoy laagbe tomar, now just watch...

ArospO
(Wednesday, April 30, 2003)

Kuashaa'r prosner uttorer upor onekangshe nirvor kore sotti tomar aei prosner uttar nijhum..Tobu-o, apatho dristhi the amar monne hoy na shadhinota and matritto tar sathe kono bishal somporko ache...Matritto tha ek dhoroner onuvuthi, r shadhinotha hocche odhikar...Matritto ekjon k sekhai bhalobasthe, responsible hothe, future r kotha chintha korthe..kono kichu korbar agge bhalo mondo bhabthe..r shadhinotha sekhay ekjon k tar odhikar folathe..nijeke prothista korthe, nijer bhab prokash korthe...amar mothe they are so different on their own way...ek jon nari'r tokhon-e ma hothe chaowa uchito jokhon se janbe se duto jinish k alada kore dekhthe pere nijeke sukhi bhabthe parbe!



~*dushtu*~
(Wednesday, April 30, 2003)

Romeo da,
tomar mone nai ami ki korbo tomake jodi amake boka dao???Image Code: 09-016..kaal ke je bollam!!

NetRomeo
(Wednesday, April 30, 2003)


Opsora der existence shudhu kolponaey, aar probably shorge. Tai Opsora gulo kolponar raajje bichoron korbe, ete aschorjer kichhu nei...
Tomar kothagulo pore thik etai mone hochchhe...bastob prithibi theke onek dure kolponar raajje tomar bichoron...jekhaane Romeo ese bondhutto kore tomar songe...

NetRomeo
(Wednesday, April 30, 2003)


Hi...Nijhum...vebechhilam tomar posting er response korbona. Aami sure...aamar opinion pore oneke aamake attack korbe - right away. Kintu lov saamlate parlamna.

Aami bolbo...onek onek khetrei matritto naari sadhinotar badha hoye aase. Eta nirvor kore desh, somaj, bakti, shikkha emon onek factors er opor. (plz see the next posting)


NetRomeo
(Wednesday, April 30, 2003)

Aamader deshe bohu purush-i biyer por matritto ke use kore meyeder bikashe badha deyar ek prodhan ostro (major tool)hisebe...bou porashona korte chaey...kivaabe eke thamano jaey..? Make her pregnant n she will stop right there...bou valo job kore, n I don't like her to do that..how do I stop her..? Make her pregnant..
Evaabe bohu meyer career chiro tore shesh hoye jaey. Meyera porinoto hoy, nimno-bitto somaaje ranna aar bachcha paloner jontro hisebe. moddho/uchcho moddhobitto somaaje bachchader manage aar goyna + dress dekhano'r model hisebe...

Matritto nari sadhinotar badha hobena tokhoni jokhon meyeti nijer jibon, career sob thik rekhe matritto ke nibe additional responsibility hisebe...ultimately ei natural desire ta beshir vaag manushei aachhe...

ArospO
(Thursday, May 01, 2003)

Mr.Romeo, Namme ami Opsora jodio, tobu-o Sopno loke amar bosobash nah...Thaki tomader motho aei prithibithei...Hae sopno dekhthe bhalobashi..tobe jani kon sopno dekhar odhikar amar ache r kontar nei...
==>Aamader deshe bohu purush-i biyer por matritto ke use kore.. "Use" is the key word here Romeo, aei use r majhe mattrito ta kothay asche..kono meye jodi kono purusher dara use hoye matritto tha r shadhinotha k akotro kore, se khetre dosh ta kar hobe? Matrittotar? naki se narir? naki sei purusher j take use korche? je nari ekjon purusher kache use hothe pare, se shadhinothar kichu ki kore bhujbe bolo tho?? tobe ki akjon shadhincheta narir ma hothe mana karon sekhetre tar shadhinotha vong-go hobe?


NetRomeo
(Thursday, May 01, 2003)


ArospO, its just simple...matritto ta amader deshe onek somoy-i meyeder bikash, shadhinota khorbo korar jonne babohrito hoy...aar tokhoni eta protibondhok hoy.
Etai bolte cheyechhi...!

ArospO
(Thursday, May 01, 2003)

Romeo jeee,
Prosno ta kintu jokhon tokhon r chilo nah...ami shudhu athotuku-e bolthe chai..hehe


~*dushtu*~
(Thursday, May 01, 2003)

amer mone hoi ami ekhon besh onek ta bujhecchiii.... maney meyeder freedom right????

accha aami boli ebar meyeder freedom shomporke!!

some stupid men thinks that women are weak and they should not be treated equally!! they are just big time idiots!! ami boli ki kore ay shomoshar shomadhan hoba shombhob!!

1) ekta amon hatutir bari men er mathai Image Code: 01-017


~*dushtu*~
(Thursday, May 01, 2003)

2) and then women should Image Code: 15-014 those men who believes women should listen every single words they say.

3) if that doesnt work then Image Code: 15-021 911.

4) otao kaaj na hoile... Image Code: 12-002 korte hobe oi shob lok der ke..

5) the best way to deal with idiot guys or men.. is this way!! Image Code: 15-022...

er chaite bhalo advise aar ki hoite paree!!! Image Code: 09-016

*** ami onek besto thakar karone shobar responses na porei kintu amer opinions dilam...pura na bujhleo andaj kore niyecchiii

---aragon---
(Thursday, May 01, 2003)

being a kid of 17 amer kichu bola uchit na taw koy ka ker ma ????

bushra
(Thursday, May 01, 2003)

b2k-r norom nick-e kichu bolle seta kemon boka boka shonato. Tai bb te shokto nam nilam. Romeo je vabe tar likhata Opsora-r nam die start korlen mone hocche etodine sujog pawa gelo .

first of all, shadheenota ki jinish? amar ja iccha tai kora ? seta too seccha-charitar belao khate. naree shadheenota r shadheenotar moddhe tofat koto-tuku ? nareeder jonnoe shadeenota ek rokom r emnite shadheenot onno rokom ki ? kau ki uttor diben ?

freedom er explanation dekhlam erokom 'the power or right to act,speek etc as one wants without anyone stopping one.' ...matritta ki tahole amader mukh bondho kore dae ? hath-pa pongu kore dae ?


bushra
(Thursday, May 01, 2003)

Romeo ja bollen, ashae pashe erokom prochur dekha jai. tobe ma howata mone hoe meyeder thamanor 2nd step. Prothom dhakkata ashe nijer ma-baba-r kach theke." Meye beshi tiring-biring ? bie die den....shob thik hoe jabe ".Bie-r poro thik(!!!) na hole apni ja bollen tai hoe. icchi-picchara ghor matie fele .

so, matritto(shobdota dat venge fello, kar kache khoti-puron chai ) jodi shadheenotar jonno badha hoe, tahole bie-ta prothom badha, r o boro badha; r bie badha hole too ultimately poribar-shomaj sob kichuke badha hishabe dar korano jae !!!
se khetre amader existence nie tana tani pore jabe .


bushra
(Thursday, May 01, 2003)

badhata nirapottahinota, meyeder dristivongi, cheleder o-shohojogita, somajer chokh-rangno, poribarer nished. ekhon badha dekhe jodi keu theme jai tahole take tar moto thakte deyae valo. prochur naree achen char-pashe jara bier por pora-lekha sesh korechen, career gorechen. prochur shofol mohila achen jader bela ma howata tader sofolotar mukhe badha hoeni. temni ake karone prochur jhore jawa meyeo achen. aabar prochur mohila achen family jader kache career hoe darae.

u can use science both to kill people and to save people. Its the people that makes the difference. Naree shadheenotar jodi kono protibondhok thake to seta amader hathe. Matritto, poribar, shomaj sob kichu ke protibondhok kora jae. Meyera se-guloke badha hishabe mene nie theme jabe kina tar upore nirvor korbe se gulo badha hoe uthbe kina.


ArospO
(Thursday, May 01, 2003)

Bushra jee, nice saying..I was going to give thousands of instance, but atho likhthe iccha kore na kokhono-e amar..tobe apnar sathe ami 100% agreed!
Thx

KonkaBoti
(Thursday, May 01, 2003)

dushtu

KonkaBoti
(Thursday, May 01, 2003)

bushra...haater dhaar ektuo komeni tomaar dekhehci!! chomotkar likhehco.

Opsi and net...nice way of thinking! aami haater kaaj shesh korye join korbo vaabchi! totodin tomra thakbe to shobai??! :)

Kuashaa'r shona ki shehs holo?

NetRomeo
(Thursday, May 01, 2003)


Ai...Opsora, na bujhe shudhu shudhu lafabena... karon tomar lekhar songe Bushra'r lekhar kono mil nei...Bushra'r lekha tomar cheye 3500 goon beshi valo...

Bushra...aapnar dristi besh sochchho...problem ta aapni clear bojhen, eta poriskar. Seta je problem, setao shikar korechhen.
Kintu deyal taake deyal bolte chan na...karon deyal na thaakle ki hobe? vanga jaabeto ? etc.
Echhara ek dik diye dekhle apnar kotha thik. Seta holo...jokhon ogulo vangar khetro toiri hobe, tokhon vangbe. Ekhon ogulo mene niye chup-chap jototuku somvob chesta chaaliye jawai better...

NetRomeo
(Thursday, May 01, 2003)


Wow...KonkaBoti...onek din por...koyek din aagei tomar kotha bolchhilam...

bushra
(Thursday, May 01, 2003)

KONKADIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII , missed u so much apu...sokal belar apnar nam dekhe je ki valo lagche....iccha korche bikot ekta chitkar dae
Opsora apu, my pleasure .
aha, onek din por kau bollo 'nice saying'...kothae kobe konkadi bolechilen...amar too kanna pacche...ekhon na aabar shunte hoe, beshi emotion tao naree shadheenotar protibondhok .

NetRomeo
(Thursday, May 01, 2003)



Mone hoy, setao kichhuta sotti...
But we all like emotions...

NetRomeo
(Thursday, May 01, 2003)



Joroti
(Thursday, May 01, 2003)

NetRomeo, ektu wait korun. Ashchi

Shopto-nila
(Friday, May 02, 2003)

NetRomeo ektu vul korechen, ami kintu matritto ke badha hishabe dekhaini. Durbol manusher kache shob kichu badha hote pare, seta factor gulor dosh noe; tar durbolota. Keu jodi nake sur-suri die hachi ene bole 'amar shordi' tahole ki seta bissash kora jae

Shopto-nila
(Friday, May 02, 2003)

'freedom of choice' shobdota shundor. Amader desher meyeder jeta nai. One of the basic reason for that is lack of security. Ami iccha moto kono profession beche nite pari na. Amake 10 bar chinta korte hoe , eta amar jonno secure hobe kina. Shudhu profession er khetre noe, sob khetre amake barti kichu chinta korte hoe meye bole. Meyera amader kache protect korar ekta kichu. Onekta 'endangered species' er moto. Ma babara hoeto shotti shotti protect korte chan, kintu bier por bepartar mor ghure jae. Tokhon protection-er sathe ego problem shoho r o onek kichu jorie jae. Shami-ra vaben shudhu shudhu jontrona kore ki hobe, nischinte ghore boshe thakuk; ami too khawacchi/poracchi. Sort of like 'I will handle everything, u just handle me!'

Ekhon je meye sara jibon 'protected' hoe elo, kono important decision er bela tar motamot onekta mullo-hin hoe porte baddho. Tokhone shadheenotar proshno uthe ashe. Nijossho chawa-pawar hishab melate iccha kore.

Shopto-nila
(Friday, May 02, 2003)

Meyeder shadheen vabe jibon-japoner onek problem ache. Matritto is far from close to any of them. Agachar voy-e gach kete felata kintu buddhimaner kaj na .

Apnar ekta kotha dekhe moja laglo.'Nimnobitto shomaje meyera ranna r baccha samlanor jontro' kototuku thik? Shomaje shob cheye beshi shadheenota vog kore nimno-bitto meyera !!! Moddho-bitter shubidha-badi monovab eder nai, uccho-bitter 'status concern' thekeo era mukto. Eder birat ekta ongsho independent, bachar jonno karo upor nirvor korena- nije kaj kore. 'ranna-baccha samlano' eder jonno special kichu na; khawa-porar moto savabik kaj. 'naree shadheenota' bole alada kono shobdo eder ovidhane ache kina shondheho hoe !!!


ArospO
(Friday, May 02, 2003)

Thx Romeo, I Know that!


ArospO
(Friday, May 02, 2003)

Konka, kothay chile? kemon acho? jekhanei thako, bhalo thako..r joldi joldi asho..


ArospO
(Friday, May 02, 2003)

Thx Romeo, I Know that!


ArospO
(Friday, May 02, 2003)

You Know Net Romeo, I thought I would let go your comment from my head...but it is bothering me and my thinking...So, finally decide to wirte something...Maybe, you would not like to read it, cause the quality of my writing is not as good as you or any others...however, it is infact my way of writing and I really don't care if I write well enough or not, I write what I feel like...there are lot others who would probably understand my point of view cause I really didn't write to make u understand anything and it is not neccessary that you understand everything that I tried to say...It could be my lack of writing or your lack of understanding, I don't know...So,please do me a favor, from next time just ignore when I have any commnent...I think that would do good for both you and me.
Thanks

ArospO
(Friday, May 02, 2003)

I am so sorry all, for posting such a messege.


||kuashaa||
(Friday, May 02, 2003)

shadheenotar shonga chhara o aarekta bishoyer upor 'protibondhokota' nirbhorsheel, sheta poribesh, aamar motey oboshshoi.

er shopokkhey kichhu bolbo to botei, kintu onnannoder motamot shuney bujhtey chachchhilam ke ki bhaaben.
unfortunately, bujhtey paarchhi na. shudhu bujhtey paarlam shobaai bhaabchhey eta niye.

KonkaBoti
(Friday, May 02, 2003)

Bushra, ekat biggg Image Code: 06-013 hug tomake meye! kacche aasho to apai, ektu ador kori. kottodin porye tomake dekhlam, ki je vaalo laglo! shotti bolte ki , tomakei dekhei response korchi ekhaney! tumi vaalo aahco to aapi?



KonkaBoti
(Friday, May 02, 2003)

netty, kaaro likha niye omon korye comment kora thik na. ek ek joner lekhar style ek ek rokom. Bushra'r likhar dhoron ekrokom, aar Opsi'r onno. kintu, oder dujoner point of view-i khuub clear. even dushtu je comment koreche, setaow chomtokar, khuub-i innovative!! at least aamar to bujhte oshubidha hoyni kono. tomaar hocche keno? ek baare bujhte naa paarle koykbaar poro, plz. tobu compeare korey kotha bolo na.

Topic taar naam chilo, ektu vabna. ekey onner pichone naa lege, cholona shobai miley shotti ektu vaabi.

KonkaBoti
(Friday, May 02, 2003)

ai re! bushra ke deya hug ta emon hoye gelo keno??!!

feraa_ree
(Friday, May 02, 2003)

shobaai nijer nijer 'point of view' diyechen aamaar aakta chotto proshno chilo aakhane ..Keu ki aachen jini Nije Ma Hoyechen ? SHerokom aakjone'r Vaabna taa bodhhoy notun kono doroja khule debe aamader shaamne!shudhu maatro jaanar aagrohe jiggesh koraa..'aakanto bektigoto' column a jodi pore jaai taahole niruttor thaakata aapnaader Shaadhinota!


NetRomeo
(Friday, May 02, 2003)


Konka, u r right. Oh, I’m extremely extremely sorry. Sorry to Opsoo.

Aasole kauke beshi like korle ek dhoroner odhikar bodh kaaj kore. Tokhon emon kotha sohojei chole aase aamar. Etaake onnovaabe neyar sujog je theke jaey, seta vola motei uchit noy amar.


NetRomeo
(Friday, May 02, 2003)

Bushra n Nila...same person...?
Anyway, aarektu bolei shesh korbo.
Aamar prothom thekei mone hoechhe, aapnar point of view ta shudhu apnar class kei represent korchhe. Jemon bolechhen,



NetRomeo
(Friday, May 02, 2003)

1) “Meyera se-guloke badha hishabe mene nie theme jabe kina tar upore nirvor korbe se gulo badha hoe uthbe kina” (vabta ei je, eta meyeder ichchhar opor nirvor korchhe..) eta moddho theke oporer diker meyeder belaey projojjo…karon.. tader more or less education aachhe, society’r kichhu friends aachhe, jader kachh theke se besh kichhu vital support pete pare…tai badha’r biruddhe jodi se revolt kore, “maan-ijjot” khotigrosto holeo she can POSSIBLY survive and manage some kind of “fair” negotiation to permit her more “freedom”. On the other hand, nimnobitter meyeder belaey ki hobe…?...She’ll be beaten. No support from anywhere – not even from her parents or own family in most of the cases…n if she is still defiant..?Her fate’ll end up in a brothel….at best she can be the “girl” of some gang member.

NetRomeo
(Friday, May 02, 2003)

2) “Durbol manusher kache shob kichu badha hote pare, seta factor gulor dosh noe; tar durbolota. Keu jodi nake sur-suri die hachi ene bole 'amar shordi' tahole ki seta bissash kora jae”
Etao thhik eki drishtivongi theke bola. Aar applicable to the same class….as mentioned above. Sotti bolte ki…aapnar ekothata pore aamader desher osohaey lokkho-lokkho “durbol” meyeder chhobi mone ese monta khub kharap holo. Taader durbol bole blame korar aage jodi aamra bujhte partam koto brutal force taader opor practice kora hoy, control korar jonne….jejonne aaj ora durbol…aar helpless.
Aasole eta hoechhe aamar personal experience er jonne. Aami oi class er songe kaaj korechhi aar onek kaachhe theke dekhechhi.


NetRomeo
(Friday, May 02, 2003)

3) “Shomaje shob cheye beshi shadheenota vog kore nimno-bitto meyera !!!” Eta ki thik…? Jodi kokhono logically compare korar somoy, sujog hoy….vebe dekhar onurodh thaklo. Like middle / upper class er ekta average meye life-e ki ki koren, tar jibon kivaabe kaate aar nimno-bitter ekta meyer khetre seta kemon.
Bolechhen, Eder biraat ekta ongsho independent…!!...Oh, I’ll be so happy that day..!!! ..

Mone hoy, aamar focus ta majority’r opore beshi chhilo….middle / upper middle / rich, ekhaane jara B2k te aachhen, taader niye kono chinta nei. Jothesto freedom aachhe tader. Bakigulo porer generation er jonne rakhlei hobe…
Last of all, thanks for all ur nice writings…it was very interesting…. except for my stupid comment ‘bout Opsora.


bushra
(Friday, May 02, 2003)

Konkadi, thank u for the bigggggggg hug uhu, ami valo nai apu. Tobe ajke thakbo. Ebarer jonmo-din shuru holo apnar bigggg hug peye. Amare r aaj pay ke

Opsora apu, apnar sathe kintu ebar ami 100% agreed. BB to response korar jonno, sorry hocchen keno ?

kuashaa bhaiya, shudhu uki-jhuki marchen je khub .Ronaggone jhapie porte r koto deri ? ek ekta point dhorie die boshe thaken, deke-duke pawa jae na. Khub bz ?

ferari, ekhane kono ma achen kina amar jana nae tobe dekhe mone holo besh roy-e sho-e proshno-ta korchen. Jeno meyera juddhong-dehi monovab nie darie ache, samanno ulta-palta kichu bolle jhapie porbe .

bushra
(Friday, May 02, 2003)

Nam nie jot pakie geche...beshi hoe gele problem...konta chere konta use korbo bujhte pari na ...joroti, nila shobe ek papi...ami

oh, Romeo, focus bodlan. Majority mane holo kajer bua, din-mojur, garments er shromik etc etc etc.Lekha-pora jana amra holam minority-r doler friend. they ARE independent !! Shami fele chole geleo patta dae na, emon ki shami ke feleo chole jae. family, mtritto esob ke use kore eder thamano jae na.Ma howata tader kache kono badhae na !!! hmm, eder shikkha-ruchil-dorshon nie proshno thakte pare ; but shadheenota vs ma howa-r proshnoe kintu era joy-e.


bushra
(Friday, May 02, 2003)

Middle classer hajarta vag ache. Ami tader kotha boli nai.. Middle classe ashen tokhon dekhte paben bacchar jonno mukh buje thakar beparta. Se khane o-shanto family break-up na hobar jonno biro ekta karon hishabe dekhano hoe bacchader. 'Kosto pacchi, shojjho korchi bacchar mukh cheye'---common ekta ojuhat. Kheal korben 'Ojuhat'. Ashole kintu financial solvency ta prodhan karon. 'kothae jabo, ki khabo, ki korbo, din cholbe kemon kore' etc etc etc thanke pichone.

Ki je bipode fellen bhai, vebechilam aj ke kono torko korbo na r parlam koe . due classe ma howar affect ta du rokom. Tae bolchilam eta k badha banale badha. Shottikar orthe eta badha na. aajker moto tata

||kuashaa||
(Friday, May 02, 2003)

daarun shob lekha. wonderful.
kintu aami o kaajey dubey aachhi naak porjonto. tuesday'raagey aar paarchhi na. tobey beshee kichhu bolar o naai. i am amazed shobar bhabna dekhey!!

NetRomeo
(Saturday, May 03, 2003)


Bushra, sundor lekha. Agreed..!!
Kintu majority'r bepaare obossoi aamar dimot aachhe.
Bangladeshe'r majority baas kore graame. Sekhaane kaajer bua, garments egulo nei...meye dinmojur, khub khub kom.
So...majority meyera motei independent noy...!!! Jara income kore taader boro ongshoi sami, baba, vaider niontriro.....

Anyway..onek torko holo...vaab binimoy holo...ekhon aami thaamte chai...

Thanx to all participants.

bushra
(Saturday, May 03, 2003)

Romeo, sottie onek holo, ebela thamte hoe .
ekta friend ke sedin BB er kotha bollam. Nijhum-er posting r reply pore tar matha kharap hobar jogar. Amake pore obak hoe jiggash korlo 'Tomra eto pagol keno ? ki pao eshobe ? tomader aage porichoe chilo ?....' tar proshner tore veshe jete jete choto belar ekta prio gaan mone porlo

"amra shobai raja amader ae rajar rajotte
noele moder rajar shon-e milbo ki shotte
amra shobae raja...
raja shobare den man, se man apni fire pan
moder khato kore rakheni kau kono oshotte...
amra cholbo apon mot-e seshe milbo tari pothe
amra noe badha noe dasher rajar trasher rajottee....
noele moder rajar shone milbo ki shotte.....
amra shobae raja..." (amar memory khub kharap...ae 9/10 ta line e sure 10/20 ta vul thakbe )....

Shobae valo thakben .

NetRomeo
(Sunday, May 04, 2003)


Aage porichoy..? Taato chhiloi...I remember talking to Nila very well...
Tumi kon kanoner fool...kon gogoner tara...
Tomaey kothaey dekhechhi jeno kon soponer para...


bushra
(Sunday, May 04, 2003)

"kobe tumi geyechile, ankhir pane cheyechile
vule giechi..... "

just kidding Romeo bhai. luv samlate parlam na, apnar kothao amar mone ache ..

NetRomeo
(Monday, May 05, 2003)


I know u kidding, bushra...


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